In 2004, nobody's summer passed without an
acquaintance with the Shapeshifters.
To say Lola's
Theme was big would be a king-sized understatement,
but Simon Marlin and Max Reich refused
to pressure themselves into a hastily conceived follow
up flop.
Instead they returned with a solid song-based
track Back To Basics, and have recently supplemented
that with the equally hooky Incredible.
Time for an
album then, and the duo have obliged with a
refreshingly coherent and varied piece of work. When
musicOMH.com tracked them down to the label's London offices the mood was one
of relaxed confidence.
Clearly the duo were aware of a lack of quality in
the dance album stakes, but as Max explains they had
experience on their side. "I think the difference
between us is we've done it before, been working so
many years in the music industry it was a natural
thing for us to do, and after Back To Basics we had
the window of opportunity. Other people, either
they're not prepared or don't have the resources or
are even just too scared!"
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The duo have been making electronic music for some
15 years. Back then Simon was in an industry
capacity. "I worked with Peppermint Jam, I was the
label manager there. Before that I had a management
company with Lola (his wife), and we looked after Max
on that, running clubs and doing DJ tours.
"I've always
been in dance music and it was around 1990 when I
started doing remixes - the first one was
Sylvester's Mighty Real. It was not until my
relationship with Max where I started to pick up the
things I needed to know. It wasn't until 2003 that I
had the balls to put my name to something."
"We
couldn't just do it all 4/4 or it would sound like a
fucking compilation." - Simon Shapeshifter on making an album.
Which is where their big tune came in. "Basically
we'd started to set up our own label Nocturnal Grooves
and we needed a record to launch it with. I was at
home listening to Lola one night and she played me an
old record by Johnny Taylor called What About
My Love. The first eight bars of that record was the
string riff, and the next day me and Max took it and
it felt good, so we gave it the working title of
Lola's Theme. It was originally an instrumental, then
we added the verse on afterwards."
And what of the
follow-up? "Well I think a few people were surprised
Back To Basics was quite as assured as it was, but the
thing is we wanted to work doubly hard to make sure it
was. We also had more money in the bank from Lola's
Theme, and it was the vibe we were on at the time,
wanting a big strings and brass section. If anything
there was more pressure from ourselves to make it good
than from anyone else! And then we turned a similar
approach to Incredible - we wanted them to turn out
that way, as after all we don't make jazz music!"
Lola's Theme, of course, was a Europe-wide smash,
and Back To Basics didn't exactly do badly either,
paving the way for the album. Simon takes up the plan.
"We decided that if we were going to make an album we
couldn't just do it all 4/4 or it would sound like a
fucking compilation, and so we didn't have any remit
when we sat down and started writing.
"We've started rehearsing, but we want
to spend a lot of time on it, get it really good." - Simon Shapeshifter on plans for a live show.
"We took
25 demos and picked the best twelve. It's
what it is, how we were feeling at the time, what we
came from. We come from a club background, so a few
tracks on there are about the chemical generation,
then there's things about our beliefs, things we're
pissed off about in the world at the moment, like the
opening track which is an anti-Bush statement."
The album track Sensitivity features Chic's
Nile Rodgers who Max says "was amazing. We
hooked up with him and he loves Lola's Theme and
wanted to do something with us, and so he actually
found an old demo that he recorded with Bernard, his
band mate in Chic, it had been lying around for
fifteen years or so and he just found it!
"There were
no vocals, no nothing and he just e-mailed it over to
us and we wrote a completely new song over it, then
recorded strings and all the vocals and stuff and
e-mailed it back to him. He jammed with his guitar
over it, and so it was done pretty much completely
over the internet!" We met up once when the track was
finished and it was amazing to meet him, he's been
involved in so many successful records."
It's easy to see why working with Rodgers was such
a boon for the group and Simon in particular, for he
grew up with "early Jackson, Stevie Wonder,
Mamas and Papas, even Tears For Fears.
Then I got more into techno and electro, started
enjoying house music." Now the group sit squarely on
the divide between commercial and underground dance
music. Simon agrees. "Some people used to say it was a
grey area, but because dance music suffered so much a
few years back some people got a bit too snobby about
everything like that."
"I think a few people were surprised
Back To Basics was quite as assured as it was." - Simon Shapeshifter on the recent compilation record.
Next stop for the Shapeshifters is the annual dance
music conference in Miami. "We've got two gigs - a
Positiva night and one with Frankie Knuckles.
It's a great get-together and handy to have the album
coming out at the same time, it gives us a little more
exposure."
Knuckles is something of a hero to the
pair. "Absolutely" says Max, "he's one of those people
who's been around, one of the pioneers of house music.
He called us up and said how much he loved Back To
Basics, and we did a great night in Pacha together
last summer. He's a very humble, lovely guy."
Since the two are keen to keep their DJing and band
projects simultaneously on the go, the choice of acts
they admire reflects this. "Obviously the
Jaxx", says Simon, "the Prodigy,
Chemical Brothers, Faithless - all acts
that have done it bigger and better than we have. As
for DJs, well Frankie's still brilliant, then there's
Roger Sanchez, Martin Solveig - he's a
really talented guy. Full Intention we love as
well."
And on plans for taking the show live, Simon is
enthusiastic. "It's high on the list, and something
that separates you from being a bog standard dance
production duo. We've started rehearsing, but we want
to spend a lot of time on it, get it really good, and
it takes a lot of money too."
The only time he's
stumped for an answer is when I ask who he'd have
supporting them. "Support? I thought we'd be
supporting other people to be honest! Probably a DJ I
guess, our own boy Simon Hawes, a deep nocturnal set."
It's refreshing, then, to know the Shapeshifters'
success is still early enough to be continually taking
them by surprise.