Animal Collective (Avey Tare is on the right, with Panda Bear and Geologist)
Animal Collective are on a short European tour to promote their (count them) ninth album Merriweather Post
Pavilion, a record which is already attracting 'album of the year'
predictions from terribly eager quarters.
With such hyperbole gushing in their direction, the three-to-four-piece have suddenly found themselves in an unaccustomed spotlight, and it's made them rather busy. So when we let it be known that we fancied a chat, we were told we'd get somebody to talk to, but nobody could quite say who.
We were given a wrong number. Then we got to speaking
on cross-purposes with an Italian man. There was half an expectation that a joke was being played on us. Then, with the correct number, we got an 'engaged' tone for 20 minutes. Was somebody trying to tell us something?
But when Dave Portner, aka Avey Tare, answered the call, we were put at ease.
His mood was upbeat, and he seemed open and approachable. Being down a phone line, of course he might have been making faces. But we like to think he wasn't.
It seems that the amount of interest
in the band has slightly surprised and frightened Portner in a way,
not least the steps taken to prevent a leak by their label Domino,
employing Web Sheriff.
Animal Collective: Brother Sport, from the album Merriweather Post Pavilion
"We weren't really involved with it all," he explains. "Some people
think we might have leaked our record at Christmas or done all this
weird stuff, but we have tried to stay on the outskirts."
Weird stuff? "We felt that
the more we talk about it and present ideas about it to the public, it
continues and continues and people argue... We just wanted it to end, at
least the talk about it. It just became intense and bizarre that it
was so newsworthy."
Portner accepts that people want to get their hands on records before
their release date, and knows it isn't all bad. "It's awesome that
people want to hear it. We don't want to do anybody wrong... It was
messed up that Ed from Grizzly Bear was the one that got yelled at and
that was a big deal, when other people leaked that track."
So he'd rather the album wasn't so closely guarded ahead of release date? "Once things are leaked, to us, the band, it's kind
of like that's the way it is," he reasons. "Nobody should really get yelled at or
anything like that, but I feel that Domino feels a little bit
differently. But having the music on the internet has helped us more than hurt us in
terms of popularity and people hearing our music."
In which ways has it helped? "The web helps us out in (the live context) too. We encourage people to record our sets if they
want, and certain songs become favourites with our fans and they get
passed around. I think that's how people get into it. I think it
builds up this really good, positive feeling around the record."
"It's hard for us because
we are so insular. We are these really private guys, it's hard for us
to work with anybody that we don't really know very well." - Avey Tare
This mood seems in distinct contrast with when Merriweather's predecessor,
Strawberry Jam, was recorded. "That was a very transitional time in our
lives. We were kind of all over the place and the record was written
in a lot of different places. So it doesn't have the cohesive feel
that this record has. I just feel because of where we
were at the time and how we were all feeling it was a darker record,
but we kind of wanted it to be that way."
Why does Merriweather have such a different feel? "This one, in the first couple of weeks we wrote nine songs. It went
really, really well and our spirits were high. There was a lot of
joking around and it just felt really good."
"The emotions that are put in the record are real and true to us," he continues.
"Because of the amount of touring we did up to recording these songs,
having to be away from home so much, thinking a lot about working as
musicians... All this stuff went into writing and creating these songs."
On the subject of the difficult passages which have peppered Animal
Collective's back catalogue, he says "It was just the mood. We have done plenty
of records that have the more in-your-face, maybe abrasive (side).
With Strawberry Jam, we wanted it to be that way, we wanted it to feel
kind of rude. (So) just to do something different, because we were feeling
mellower all around, that's just how this one turned out."
However they're feeling, their audience continues to grow. How do they maintain the momentum and the intrigue behind each new project?
"People respond more live to our more enthusiastic, upbeat songs, but
our tastes are all over the place. Music for us has always been a more positive outlet. Even
if we were angry or we were sad. I think that there are even a lot of
songs on Merriweather that have a kind of sadness, but we have wanted
to use the music as seeing a positive light."
Animal Collective: My Girls, from the album Merriweather Post Pavilion
Portner is brimming with this new found positivity and reflects the in-band harmony. "With the last few records, we've all been in different
places with Noah (Lennox, aka Panda Bear) living in Lisbon, Brian (Weitz, aka Geologist) lives in (Washington) DC and I live in New
York, so when we get together to play, the playing is special time for
us. It's the only time we really hang out together. I think that's why
it has become so fun."
This is not to say that the band do not have their disagreements. On
the positioning of the upbeat Brother Sport, one of the undoubted highlights of the record, as album closer he
admits, "it was actually a big argument... Well not really an argument.
There was a lot of debate."
Why so? "A tracklisting is really important to us, especially Brian and I. We
put a lot of thought into it - it's defining the perfect flow. We often
end our sets with Brother Sport before the encore, and got used
to it becoming a close off. It seemed to work live for us.
Originally, I didn't think it was going to work because it gets you
ready, people are going to want more, the party is just beginning."
Alternatives were considered. "We thought (of using) No More Running, but it was too obvious for us to have a
mellow song. It was something we had done before. So it seemed like
something different, in a really positive way to end the record with
Brother Sport."
After Merriweather comes Animal Collective's next project, a visuals DVD featuring completely
new music. "It's been slow coming together, because it's such a new
process for us and with everything else going on" he says. "But
everything is more or less written now, we just need to record when we
go in the studio in February. I imagine it will be done by the middle
of the year."
When asked whether we might expect to hear some of the new material live, Portner is not so sure. "We really want the music to go hand-in-hand with the visuals. Some of it wouldn't make sense or be as interesting without the visuals there."
Our time up, it's plain that Dave Portner and his
bandmates are on top of their game and happy with the hand
they've been dealt. But if there is one thing about Animal
Collective, it's that they always keep their fans on their toes. So
your guess is as good as ours what their next move will be.
Animal Collective's ninth album Merriweather Post Pavilion is out now through Domino. My Girls, the first single from the album, is released as a digital download on 23rd March 2009. Animal Collective tour the UK from 22nd-28th March 2009.