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Black Box Recorder are still together. They released third album Passionoia earlier this year (on yet another label).
With so many to choose from, how does Haines reconcile his various musical monikers? "Black Box Recorder is a more egalitarian thing. We had to have committee meetings every time we wanted to rehearse," he grimaces, jokingly. "My own grass is always much greener. You set yourself up in competition with yourself," he goes on. "I guess this is a problem Damon Albarn (of Blur and Gorillaz) has too - but on a slightly larger scale."
As for that misanthropic image, Haines wants to put the misery-guts persona to bed. "People often mistake me for an incredibly miserable person. It's not as obvious as that but I thought I'd play up to it," he explains wryly. "I'm not completely reactionary! I'm not turning into Alan Clark..."
In many of his publicity shots he says he's not being entirely serious - such as the cover to his soundtrack to Christie Malry's Own Double Entry, on which we find Haines besuited and holding a blackboard caption which reads: ART WILL SAVE THE WORLD. "The cover of Christie Malry was obviously not entirely serious. I was perfecting my best scowl," he grins, before doing a bad impression of himself.
The glum image was reinforced by his call for a "National Pop Strike" - another joke, says Haines. "The point was to get people like Jarvis (Cocker) saying: 'Well I'm not working tomorrow.' How would this be different from any other day? That was the joke, and it was obviously a publicity stunt, but it was a bit of fun. It was ludicrous and it was meant to be ludicrous. And if Har Mar Superstar passes for having a sense of humour then God help us all."
Haines certainly has a sense of humour - after calling on the record-buying public to boycott record purchases for a week, he released his own album The Oliver Twist Manifesto at the start of it. "Of course, yeah!" he laughs. "Genius marketing!"
"Jeffrey Archer? Definitely a good thing." - Luke Haines, deciding England's strong points...
He's also at pains to express his oblique liking for England - the country which, after all, made him. But with Black Box Recorder's debut album England Made Me, he reckons the press got it all wrong. "They got this angle that somehow it was a critique of New Labour, but really it was just an affectionate look at the rotten aspects of England that John (Moore) and myself enjoy," he explains. "We would have a game of good thing, bad thing. Lord Lucan? Good thing. Jeffrey Archer? Definitely good thing. You can simplify most things in life and it straddles some areas of bad taste. But we have an affection for the rotten-ness of England that we remember growing up in. I can remember those sorts of things more than anything to do with popular culture."
The kind of incident that influences Haines' writing is certainly not whether Posh'n'Becks have new hairstyles. "I remember the whole Jeremy Thorpe incident with some fondness. And the John Stonehouse disappearance. Those are the kind of things that informed my childhood and they came back on England Made Me," he says. "I'm sure there are other incidences on that album - on Hated Sunday: 'Oh to be in England on a Sunday, dear old dismal England on a Sunday...' That's said meaning we'd rather be here than anywhere else. There are references to English things, but they're affectionate. And if not affectionate then observational."
So it's official - Luke Haines likes Blighty after all. "And the older I get the more I dislike foreign travel anyway. Travel narrows the mind," he offers.
"My output as a whole is a rollercoaster romp of good slapstick entertainment." - Luke Haines, being typically self-effacing...
Using four names, Haines can use any one of them again at any time (he's even said so in one of his songs) - as we've seen with the rebirth of The Auteurs for the Das Capital project. But is there life still in Black Box Recorder? What next for this least predictable of English songwriters? "It's open for another album," he enthuses, "but I think the two of them (John and Sarah) are keen to do solo type things. The Black Box Recorder aim is to reconvene next summer (2004)."
And why should people buy another of his albums? "I can't think of any reason why people would want to buy my records," he says. Indeed, he began The Oliver Twist Manifesto with the line: 'This is not entertainment'.
"I'm revising my opinion on that," he counters. "My output as a whole is a rollercoaster romp of good slapstick entertainment," he grins, disarmingly.
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