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He's a friendly, slightly gregarious man who
immediately sounds at ease, talking for minutes
without need for intervention. And when he talks about
music, and his role in it, there's no stopping him.
So, the new album?
"I just think it's all about making
twenty plus tracks and choosing the best of the bunch,
and hopefully that leaves a bit of wanting at the end
of it, and I try to do that. It's not an easy thing to
do though! I feel like the sound's matured, and I feel
like I've found myself more on this album.
"I think the
essence has always been there, the elements, and I
kind of feel like I'm gonna make music for ever now! I
know what my sound is, what my feel is, I know what
I'm into. It's me going deeper into my musical
upbringing and trying to exaggerate that. Actually I
believe that I just exaggerate all of my musical
inspirations.
The implication is that Evelyn is happy to leave
genre aside and just do what comes naturally. "Yeah,
because I think trends end, that's what they do. I
just don't think making music is about that. You
realize that when you look at your mentors, they've
just done their own thing, and it's the self indulgent
types that hit the nail on the head, they create their
own bubble and their spirits are unquestioned to
themselves, to anything. It's all about being content
with yourself when you're being creative."
Deep thoughts indeed. But Evelyn never gives the
impression he's about to vanish into his own private
universe. That is abundantly clear when he talks about
his recruitment policy for guest vocalists. "We kind
of find each other, I never seem to have to look too
far. China B worked on the last album, but used to
work behind a bar. I didn't even know she was a
singer! She's a great lyricist, great with melodies
too."
Evelyn clearly has fond memories of a shared
experience that inspired the album track Flip Ya Lid,
with vocalist Ricky Rankin. "When we were doing
festivals and stuff, we just got on. We'd bump into
each other a few times that summer in 2005, and in the
end he came up to do a chorus on a track for me, and
did it so quick that we said 'oh we've got loads of
time here, let's do something else'.
"I've had
clashes of characters, it's like fucking hell there's
some egos in the studio!" - Nightmares On Wax's George Evelyn
"So in between
that he wanted to get a bit of weed, and it was pretty
late at night, so when we got to the perimeter there
were loads of riot police about, and he was a bit
freaked out by it, and this van pulled up at the side
of my car with all these riot police in it, shining
the torch into my car! So it freaked him out a bit -
and this was a guy that lived in Brixton! So we jumped
back in the car, and started knocking a beat together,
and he started freestyling, and it worked - and that
whole song is just about people flipping their lid,
and they just need to calm down. It was just borne out
of that element of what's round you at the time."
Warming to his task, he moves on. "And then there's
Moses, who I've known for about ten, twelve years, and
we were trying to write the track Damn. I could
imagine a kind of gospel choir on it, and he's an
ex-church man, so he's got contacts. He did the
production on the gospel choir, and I produced some
tracks to his album."
Are all his collaborations so successful?
"Sometimes when you get people into the studio it
never comes off, you try and force the issue. I've had
clashes of characters, it's like fucking hell there's
some egos in the studio! I think the most important
thing about those scenarios is how good a producer are
you, and how do you manage that situation? At the end
of the day it's all about what you can get out of that
time."
Nightmares on Wax remain on the Warp label, one of
the first to sign to the Sheffield imprint. Evelyn,
characteristically, is at ease with their position
with the company. "I used to go through years of press
and promo where people would say, 'what's it feel like
being on a techno label and you're not techno?' and
it's like a lot of people think we all sleep together
or summat! Now I have, 'what does it feel like being
on the label and there's loads of guitar bands on
there?' It's just a record label. You've got to give
them credit, they've built themselves up off the genre
off the beginning but they've expanded that, they've
had a long vision, the ambition's there and the
hunger's there. I'm the same when it comes to putting
things out."
Quite a contrast from some of Evelyn's
contemporaries who've been harmed by opting for the
major label route. "I know so many amazing musicians
who've done the grandiose thing but now they're
fucked, they don't even know who they are any more,
they can't recapture that thing that was special about
them."
"I know so many amazing musicians
who've done the grandiose thing but now they're
fucked..." - Nightmares On Wax's George Evelyn
Evelyn has successfully toured the album this year.
"The best way to represent this album is on a sound
system, we've used probably the best sound system in
the country, it represents where Nightmares on Wax
come from. It's not like watching a DJ set, as we've
got the vocals. Though there'll be a few rewinds on
Flip Ya Lid, I'm sure!"
The new album isn't the only body of music to
benefit. "When you do the back catalogue you realize
what gems you've got and you imagine them on the sound
system. With what I'm doing I've got a scratch DJ as
well, and we're trying to create a journey, with the
DJ box set up in red, loads of smoke all over the
place. It's really enjoyable!"
For the rest of the year, Evelyn's brief has been
to "quietly launch my record label, which is Wax On
Records. It's for people who are doing stuff that just
don't have the opportunity to be heard, and I've got a
platform, so why not explore that? That's the reason
why the label was launched, so I'm pretty excited
about that.
"We've also had the three limited edition
EPs, just as a special treat for the headstrong, and
there's talk in the pipeline of doing a classic album
set. I know that the Smoker's Delight album traveled
through word of mouth all the way over the world, and
I'd have to say yes if someone asked me if it was a
cult album. It just won't go away, there's always
something coming up every year with it. But it's just
hard to make that comment about yourself, you know
what I mean?"
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